Super Mario 64
==Secrets of SM64, Part 6==
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/11/2006 4:49:46 PM | message detail |
Interesting trick on the TAS board, maybe the Princess slide could get under 12 seconds with this robertz? --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
The Great Onion Kid | Posted 10/11/2006 5:53:42 PM | message detail |
If you mean the C^UP thing, I doubt it. The technique for getting the 12'3 requires a couple bumps early on that would eliminate any speed. Maybe getting 19'3 (no shortcuts) or 20'3 (All coins) or lower if you can steer well enough not to fall off the edge or hit the walls of the curves at the bottom at the wrong angle. --- I own the world's largest 3D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/11/2006 5:55:04 PM | message detail |
Ok good point onion but intstead dont jump just run against the wall ( it still makes you go backwards ) or just bump yourself at the wall at the first turn possibly 12.2? --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/11/2006 6:08:37 PM | message detail |
It's an interesting hypothesis, but I doubt it... To get the record so far, you have to use the side wall of the slide to get yourself going backwards. Doing that would cancel out any chance of doing the C^ thing. I think that's what The Onion Kid was saying. And I promise I'll make a vid of the Lobby Glitch tomorrow. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/11/2006 6:34:54 PM | message detail |
its weird what happens whenever I C-up it doesnt make me go faster, and I can't turn o.o --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/12/2006 11:18:12 PM | message detail |
For those not watching the TAS-board, I found a ridiculously simple trick for getting a bobomb's coin. Instead of throwing it or activating it (and waiting for it to explode), just kick it. Nice and simple. I'm predicting this will be the new standard of bobomb killing. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/13/2006 3:54:20 PM | message detail |
Thats what I do 2. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
ameba2 | Posted 10/13/2006 6:32:35 PM | message detail |
I always use that method. O_o --- My SM64 records: 120 stars - 2:46 / 16 stars - 0:22 |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/13/2006 8:22:36 PM | message detail |
You do?! Dammit, how come every good trick/glitch I find has always been discovered??? *contemplates suicide* *realizes it's not worth it* --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/13/2006 9:27:51 PM | message detail |
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAa4dk0tT6M Mannny useful things happen when you get a running start and dive into bunny and hit wall, it can get the bunny into walls, it can reposition the bunny for other things, another way to do the bunny glitch 2 1: position bunny as if you're going to do the classic way of doing the bunny glitch 2: get a running start 3: dive and he'll get "inside" the door and then go through the door normally and grab him through the door Very useful and im gonna test more stuff with this... This could help us get in more places and im still screwing around with MIPS. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/13/2006 9:28:36 PM | message detail |
PS: skip to the end I screwed up at the beginning. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/14/2006 3:24:57 PM | message detail |
I want to see the lobby glitch Robertz!!! :( --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/14/2006 6:03:05 PM | message detail |
Uploading the Lobby Glitch (and a couple other glitches in the lobby) now... --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/14/2006 6:06:17 PM | message detail |
YAYYYYY! you broke a promise :( O well I forgive you. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/14/2006 6:09:56 PM | message detail |
Yessir... I'm proud of this/these glitches, so I'm uploading them in super high quality video... I don't feel like typing out all the details here, so I'm gonna put everything as captions on the video... Not long now. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/14/2006 6:11:30 PM | message detail |
I LOVE YOU ROBERTZ! =D --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/14/2006 8:55:18 PM | message detail |
Its been long >_>, hurry please. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/14/2006 9:24:23 PM | message detail |
Sorry, there was a power failure... I'll start re-editing it now. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/14/2006 10:18:21 PM | message detail |
All right, after countless delays, here are the much-anticipated (yeah, right..) LOBBY GLITCHES... Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ScZ-3HAdQ. All the commentary is in the video. I'll bet they've all been discovered. Lol --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/14/2006 11:20:11 PM | message detail |
OMG NICE JOB I knew the last one, but wowww nice! --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/14/2006 11:30:56 PM | message detail |
Thanks! BTW, after leaving the N64 with Mario doing the last glitch for three hours, I came back to find Mario sleeping on the floor, so, if you don't wanna restart, just wait a while. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/14/2006 11:41:31 PM | message detail |
ahhh nice, yes u can blj there, you can only get minimun speed without tas though, but with TAS yes you probably can do something spectacular >_> GOOD JOB ROBERTZ YOU'RE MY HERO --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/14/2006 11:46:07 PM | message detail |
You should tell FODA about this, tell him to use this in his 16 star run to BLJ to avoid opening star required doors, and just to experiment. I wen't right through star required doors, WOW! thats really useful! --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 12:12:29 AM | message detail |
Really? If so, it might be possible to BLJ straight to the Bowser 1 loading point, Wiggler's Cave-style... You could get downstairs with zero stars... --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 12:21:44 AM | message detail |
exactly, and you could start with WF then go to BoB then go to BOWSERS OMG lol that would save like 2 seconds wow! >_> but seriously, TAS circumstances, you're a genius! this is veryyyy useful and definitly tell FODA, maybe he can get 16:00 sub-par when he does his 16 star run, im still testing, so far, I know it'll mostly be used only once if at all in a TAS and that would be at the very beginning if the WF strategy works. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 12:23:25 AM | message detail |
im going to try more testing cause this glitch might work in many stair cases if you get my drift, just use the camera and look through the wall to check for "hollow areas* --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 12:52:54 AM | message detail |
Yeah, I gotcha... I already posted it on the TAS board. Imagine how revolutionary this would be if we could get enough speed to hit the Bowser 1 loading point below the trapdoor... Get to the basement with ZERO STARS... I can picture it now. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 1:03:50 AM | message detail |
*drools* btw imagine if something amazing happened just for having 0 stars and being in the basement like maybe they left in another MIPS down there if you somehow got 0 stars down there and they left it down there! lol i know that won't happen but that would be awsome. FODA is very good at abusing TAS' so id get him to try it. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 1:22:00 AM | message detail |
Id like to state, im the firrst person to ever get in the court yard BROD without gs lol yeah robertz I just got through that door w00t first good discovery with your glitch. --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 1:54:07 AM | message detail |
Ok now ive gotten into the little bump by the toad, into JRB aquarium, into key door #1 and #2 castle court yard many times and the entry way to the castle and outside, it is definite with TAS you can get into bowser and thus get into the basement with 0 stars. btw i thought of a great idea for a TAS'er try to get into one of the other peaches picture in the princess peaches slide room because if you use camera you can see theres a bit of area to step on and that could lead to unlimited BLJing which could lead to out of bounds! which could lead to madness! --- I own the world's largest 2D puzzle |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 2:00:50 AM | message detail |
Brightguy, on fastest star times, on manta rays rewards, you've written Myles Bukrim twice just to let you know, --- **Join Mr_Robertz_Z's Video Quiz on SM64 Board** Mr_Robertz_Z is my hero! |
Dom Dunc | Posted 10/15/2006 7:27:11 AM | message detail |
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Dom Dunc | Posted 10/15/2006 7:30:43 AM | message detail |
Nice discovery roberts_z! Sweet glitches Silent_Slayers, are any of them possible on a console or is tool assistance needed? And more importantly are we gonna get vids of them? --- XBOX Live GamerTag: Dom Dunc http://www.systemcrash.tk - Video Game Glitches |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 10:19:54 AM | message detail |
Ok now ive gotten into the little bump by the toad, into JRB aquarium, into key door #1 and #2 castle court yard many times and the entry way to the castle and outside, it is definite with TAS you can get into bowser and thus get into the basement with 0 stars YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha ha!, I knew it would work! Yo, thanks for testing it out! I can't, because I don't have a controller for the PC, so I appreciate you doing it. And good job BLJ'ing in the courtyard. As soon as you can, try and make some vids of you BLJing to different sopts in the castle; I wanna see my glitch being used! Lol And thanks for the compliment, Mr. Dunc... So far, we can only get the BLJ on an emulator, but you never know... --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 10:28:17 AM | message detail |
If you can get into the JRB Aquarium, it's obvious you can get inside the door to JRB... THerefore, it's almost definite you can get inside any room in the Lobby without opening the door to it.. Sooooo... Previous levels you could get into with zero stars: BoB Current levels you can get into with zero stars: BoB WF JRB CCM PSS B1 HMC LLL SSL VCUTM Lol, drain the moat with zero stars... If this seriously works, it's gonna be incredible. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 10:32:11 AM | message detail |
Sorry for all the posts, but I gotta ask... When you say you've gotten outside the castle and into the courtyard, do you mean you BLJ'd straight to the loading point, or BLJ'd into their BRoDs? *prays for first one* --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
peteyboo | Posted 10/15/2006 11:16:34 AM | message detail |
If you can get into the JRB Aquarium, it's obvious you can get inside the door to JRB... THerefore, it's almost definite you can get inside any room in the Lobby without opening the door to it.. Sooooo... Actually, we've (they've) already found that you can BLJ on the steps leading to the JRB (and BoB) doors to get into the rooms without opening the doors. --- Who throws barrels at people? What are you, some giant monkey who's made off with a pretty wench? ~ Guillo, Baten Kaitos Origins |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 12:03:37 PM | message detail |
you can do on console its just hard to explain where you BLJ Ill make a vid, Im veryy happy to help you with the glitch RObz plus your my hero now ^_^ Ok i dont understand your question rob but I went through the door >_> --- **Join Mr_Robertz_Z's Video Quiz on SM64 Board** Mr_Robertz_Z is my hero! |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 12:08:45 PM | message detail |
Actually, we've (they've) already found that you can BLJ on the steps leading to the JRB (and BoB) doors to get into the rooms without opening the doors. Yep, I saw that from the TAS WIP. With this, we can get in anywhere... i don't understand your question rob When you BLJ'd from the pillar, you said you got outside the castle and into the courtyard. Normally, you'd have to open the door and go through a loading point. If you didn't (you just got behind the door), you'd be stuck in a BRoD. So, when you BLJ'd to outside of the castle, did you get stuck in the BRoD, or did you actually get through the loading point? --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
MasterShield77 | Posted 10/15/2006 12:36:57 PM | message detail |
Wow. There's a lot of excitement today. Both of you (mr roberts Z and slayers) sound as if you have found the holy grail or something like that. --- **Super Mario 64 PIT: Player In Training** Join Mr Roberts Z's online SM64 video quiz. |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 12:55:00 PM | message detail |
got into the pedastal in BOB yess the big one w00t! --- **Join Mr_Robertz_Z's Video Quiz on SM64 Board** Mr_Robertz_Z is my hero! |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 1:28:55 PM | message detail |
K I still dont get your question but lets put it this way, I got so much speed went through the door leading to the outside or lobby so I was in the BROD at that point, I still had sooo much speed I have oppurtunitys to go all the way lets say to CCM, also in the courtyard that was so lucky cause I can't do it again, Im makin low quality vids just to explain where You BLJ cause you guys dont seem to understand, you dont need TAS im doing this all NON Tas just on an emu. We need FODA to test some stuff cause I bet he could go through one of the other peach paintings in the SLide room and he could get into bowser, past the bowser painting even though its already possible. I think I've tested enough, if you use the camera inside the aquarium You can see a little room behind the "picture to get into JRB" so if we could get there, we could enter the picture backwards!!!!!!! imagine what would happen, we need TAS'ers cause I have no idea how to TAS --- **Join Mr_Robertz_Z's Video Quiz on SM64 Board** Mr_Robertz_Z is my hero! |
The Great Onion Kid | Posted 10/15/2006 1:48:03 PM | message detail |
Nice one mr_roberts_z! Now that this glitch is found, it opens a whole lot of possibilites for 16 Star speed runs, now that there's so many levels to pick stars from right off the bat. Too bad that pesky MIPS is still needed to get to Bowser 2. But the BLJing into JRB is a GameFAQs-based discovery as far as I know. A user named StefanvanDyke posted a video of it here in early 2005. --- I own the world's largest 3D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 1:54:30 PM | message detail |
Thanks... To Slayers: Can you post some vid? I gotta see this... --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 2:08:10 PM | message detail |
I dunno maybe I should delay it by 6 days like you did to us >_> lol jk hold on I will but ill tell you it wont satisfy you, it'll just explain to you where to BLJ. Btw you can't blj outta bounds from what I can tell unless TAS is used. --- **Join Mr_Robertz_Z's Video Quiz on SM64 Board** Mr_Robertz_Z is my hero! |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 2:15:35 PM | message detail |
Lol, I know where to BLJ... And like I said, I couldn't really help the delays... NVM. --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 2:38:04 PM | message detail |
are you mad at me robertz? lol uploading. --- **Join Mr_Robertz_Z's Video Quiz on SM64 Board** Mr_Robertz_Z is my hero! |
The Great Onion Kid | Posted 10/15/2006 2:44:42 PM | message detail |
Sorry, second part of my post was a reply to peteyboo, just forgot to type his username. --- I own the world's largest 3D puzzle |
mr_roberts_z | Posted 10/15/2006 2:57:30 PM | message detail |
Mad? Naw, what makes you say that? --- **Join my Video Quiz at the Super Mario 64 boards!** |
Silent_Slayers | Posted 10/15/2006 4:17:17 PM | message detail |
just the capitalized NVM and stuff made me think you were pissed or something lol. --- **Join Mr_Robertz_Z's Video Quiz on SM64 Board** Mr_Robertz_Z is my hero! |